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Terrorism Overseas: Managing the Unimaginable – csuitepodcast interview with TUI UK & Ireland

Some of what was discussed in this podcast was extremely sensitive, given we didn’t just talk about protecting corporate reputation, but in certain instances, we referenced events that had involved the loss of human life.  I therefore hope anyone who listens feels that it was handled appropriately.  As you can expect, everyone who I interviewed along with myself said the same in that our hearts go out to all the families and friends of all those victims of all the incidents discussed.  

Interview starts at 31:59

In the final interview of the csuitepodcast that I recorded at PR Week’s Crisis Communications Conference in London, I spoke with Fiona Jennings, External Communications Director for TUI UK & Ireland

Chatting with TUI UK & Ireland's Fiona Jennings

Chatting with TUI UK & Ireland’s Fiona Jennings

We opened the chat by discussing how the company coped with the event of 26th June 2015 after thirty-eight people lost their lives when a gunman opened fire on tourists staying in the popular resort of Port El Kantaoui, just north of Sousse in Tunisia, thirty of whom were British citizens travelling with Thomson.

Fiona said that the situation was obviously overwhelming, which is why it is important to have a crisis plan in place, which has been practised and scenario planned against. As a large travel company that takes 5.5m people away [each year], Thomson has a lot of detailed plans and scenario crisis exercise four times a year and so are fairly well prepared.  However, she added that any crisis is unpredictable and so a plan needs to be flexible and agile.

Fiona explained that in the first few hours after an event, it is about understanding and verifying the facts that you can. You need to ensure what you are communicating is accurate and that it is carried out as speedily as possible, which she said can be challenging.

Fiona said that the rules in these situations are to:

  • Communicate with empathy – a crisis is never about the business, it is about the people it affects
  • Be transparent, authentic, believable and honest
  • Communicate as and when you can
  • Put the customer at the heart of everything

In a crisis over seas of the size of the one in Tunisia, Fiona said that it’s necessary to communicate with a number of different organisations, including The Foreign & Commonwealth Office, Red Cross, Met Police, Counter Terrorism Police and the Emergency Services on the ground.

Another challenge TUI had to face in this instance was not just the returning home of customers who were holidaying in Tunisia, but they also had to manage the 70,000 thousand people that were booked to go out to the same country that summer. Fiona explained that the business needed a huge amount of time to reallocate flights and find hotel rooms for these customers. Very few people cancelled their holiday and instead rebooked somewhere else, so it was an enormous job to help everyone.

Due to a civil case against TUI, the specifics of this event could not be discussed in detail, but there were learnings that Fiona shared:

  • Put the customer at the heart of everything is key
  • Over-communicate, especially in the first 48 hours – tell everyone, externally and internally as much as you can
  • Ensure your senior leaders stand front and centre in a crisis and allow them to tell the story of the business, what is being done to help customers overseas and in the UK
  • Work with external partners in a coordinated way
  • Work with the media and gain their help – Fiona told of an example where they used the media to get the appropriate numbers out to help prioritise the huge volume of calls (over 30,000) that they received from holidaymakers.

Following the many recent terrorist attacks including, Paris, Nice, London, Manchester, Fiona thinks all businesses, not just the travel industry, will need to plan and train their staff to deal with this kind of crisis. She felt that, sadly, businesses will need to be aware how this type of attack could affect them and so unfortunately they will need to be prepared and train staff.

Fiona’s final message was to communicate with honesty and transparency and as one voice, but also to look after yourselves and your teams because you really need to work together in very stressful times.

This episode of the csuitepodcast was sponsored by Global Communications Training firm WPNT.

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Crisis Communications Training – csuitepodcast interview with WPNT

Some of what was discussed in this podcast was extremely sensitive, given we didn’t just talk about protecting corporate reputation, but in certain instances, we referenced events that had involved the loss of human life.  I therefore hope anyone who listens feels that it was handled appropriately.  As you can expect, everyone who I interviewed along with myself said the same in that our hearts go out to all the families and friends of all those victims of all the incidents discussed.  

Interview starts at 26:37

In the third interview of the csuitepodcast that I recorded at PR Week’s Crisis Communications Conference in London, I spoke with Neil Chapman, Partner of Global Communications Training firm WPNT, who kindly sponsored the show.

Neil was actually a previous guest of the podcast when I last discussed Crisis Communications, back in Show 20, and so I started by asking him which organisations he felt had their crisis communication right and who had got it badly wrong over the last 12 months?

However, he didn’t want to give specific examples without knowing from the inside what’s happening.  He said he always has empathy with the responders, and whilst we see the headlines and social media chat, which generally are going to be critical, he knows that they would be facing pressures and challenges.  He therefore has sympathy for the responders in an organisation and seeing how they are handling the crisis communications.  According to Neil, in training, to gain long term success, it is not just about communicating effectively with the media, but also the right stakeholders.

WPNT specialise in the training on how to prepare to respond in a crisis and Neil explained that they like to break things down to different skills – it’s not just interviewing well, it is also stakeholders planning, organisational planning, managing press conferences, managing volumes of call, and structuring statements that the company is producing.

The other aspect is how social media plays out in a crisis.

WPNT have a proprietary closed system called ‘Storm’ that allows participants to take decisions, which they then see reflected in the system, which replicates real time social media, as well as the interaction between media and social media and other stakeholders. Neil’s experienced team then react to the decisions to show how this may play out in the public.

via WPNT

via WPNT

Neil said that if the participants are not big social media users, they don’t realise how fast the reaction could be or the interaction between the stakeholders they are trying to reach, i.e., customers, employees, investors and the mainstream media.

Therefore, Neil’s key message in terms of crisis communications training is that any organisation should understand what an effective response looks like to them, so that the team can then practise a specific set of skills to be effective and work towards it. For example, how do you lead a team while under stress with a seemingly fast ticking clock over you?  These are skills that are useful every day but essential in a crisis.

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Importance of stakeholder engagement in crisis management – csuitepodcast interview with National Trust

Interview starts at 12:48

Please note, this particular interview was recorded before the awful events at Glenfell Tower.

Some of what was discussed in this podcast was extremely sensitive, given we didn’t just talk about protecting corporate reputation, but in certain instances, we referenced events that had involved the loss of human life.  I therefore hope anyone who listens feels that it was handled appropriately.  As you can expect, everyone who I interviewed along with myself said the same in that our hearts go out to all the families and friends of all those victims of all the incidents discussed.  

In the second interview of Show 44 of the csuitepodcast, that was sponsored by Global Communications Training firm WPNT and recorded at PR Week’s Crisis Communications Conference in London, I spoke with Nick Foley – Head of Communications for the National Trust.

with National Trust's Nick Foley (right)

with National Trust’s Nick Foley (right)

Nick talked through a case study on how the National Trust faced scrutiny after a devastating fire tore through the 18th Century mansion, Clandon Park, in April 2015.

Image via http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/clandon-park-fire-earl-onslow-10770361

Image via http://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/clandon-park-fire-earl-onslow-10770361

This was a huge reputational challenge as the Trust exists to protect around 500 properties and places like this on behalf of the Nation forever, and so the fire struck at the heart of what they are there to do.

Nick told of the events of the fire, that broke out late afternoon and quickly spread from the basement to the roof and by the evening it was a blaze. This was all played out in front of media and onlookers.

It was therefore important that the National Trust owned the story and so wanted to ensure people came to their owned channels for information and updates, rather than relying on third parties.  They therefore focussed on using the power and reach of their own Trust members and supporters – they have over 4.5million members.

Nick can call on a team of around 10 people at headquarters to manage a situation like this, plus three regional communications officers. However, they also tapped into the expertise of the people on the ground, i.e. those leading salvage operation or who had rescued things from the fire.  They were all crucial in helping the Trust tell the story.

Since the drama of the fire, the National Trust has wanted to take people on the journey with them, keeping those interested updated throughout the process.

The first phase was the salvage operation, which takes 6 – 7 months, seeing what can be saved and restored. Next came the fire report, investigating what or who was to blame for the fire – it turns out it was due to a manufacturing fault in the fuse board.  Although, the report did also point out areas the Trust could have done better and as they were open about it, told their members how they were addressing these concerns.

The National Trust then announced its vision for the house. The ground floor was to be restored, as it had to some extent survived intact. However, as the first and second floor had been destroyed, they wanted to make this a more innovative and fresh modern community space that and so launched their plans in front of a large media audience in the original marble hall of the house in January 2016.   Nick said it was important to get the journalists back to the house to see for themselves that much more had survived than anyone could have possibly hoped for when the fire first took hold.

Nick shared four key lessons from the experience:

    • Be true to your values. It would have been easy, once the fire was over, to not say much. However, as a membership organisation, the National Trust wanted to be honest with the members, staying true to their principals to be open, honest and transparent, so as to ensure support from its members. A camera was set up opposite the site, so people could see what was happening live. They were also honest about their safety record and the processes involved, about the scale of devastation of the fire and how long the process would take. But they also knew that nothing beats actually seeing the situation and so they decided to open the gardens to the public only a few weeks after the fire, which resulted in about 3,500 turning up over a number of weekends to see what was happening.
    • Spotting the opportunity within the bad news. No one was injured in the fire as everyone was evacuated safely. Not all was lost, in fact, around 400 items were saved from the collection due to a well-rehearsed salvage operation. There were also opportunities in terms of the public’s response – the Trust received many messages of support and sympathy as well as financial offers and volunteering offers of physical help, not just from the UK but from around the world.
    • Own the story. The National Trust has 1.5 million followers on its social media channels alone and Nick explained if they could get to them directly, it would go a long way to get their buy and in support for what they were doing, but to drive people to those channels you need great content. They therefore set themselves up like a news room, sending ex-journalists who were in the team to talk to key players and experts, in-house photographers and videographers to the site to capture the key moments.

They also asked their own experts to write first person pieces on what they were doing, the salvage operation, what items had been saved and how they were caring for them. As the Trust had control of the house, the salvage operation and the salvaged items, it meant they were able to drip feed the content through their own channels and could then pass it on to media, which helped shaped the story they wanted to tell.

      • Act decisively. Nick said that the Trust committed to restoration early on, which stopped rumours of the house being knocked down. Meetings were held with about 200 different groups to consult very widely of restoration plans. All the way through, they filled the void and told people what was going on.

Finally, in terms of measurement, Nick said that 97% of the media coverage in the first year was neutral or positive, with two thirds of that coverage showing that the Trust was a caring brand. The social engagement was also very strong and wide reaching, with Facebook posts reaching over one million people and web articles reaching nearly 150,000 unique users. Plus £100,000 was raised via the Clandon appeal and the open garden days were sold out.

Nick added though that it is not just about the statistics, but also about how they reenergised and engaged with their communities. Therefore how something that felt terrible at the time turned into something quite positive and has inspired people to get involved and look into the rebirth of Clandon, over the next few years.

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Police Communications in crisis situations – Sussex Police csuitepodcast interview

Show 44 of the csuitepodcast was sponsored by Global Communications Training firm WPNT and recorded at PR Week’s Crisis Communications Conference in London.

Some of what was discussed in this podcast was extremely sensitive, given we didn’t just talk about protecting corporate reputation, but in certain instances, we referenced events that had involved the loss of human life.  I therefore hope anyone who listens feels that it was handle appropriately.  As you can expect, everyone who I interviewed along with myself said the same in that our hearts go out to all the families and friends of all those victims of all the incidents discussed.

Talking with Katie Perkin of Sussex Police

Talking with Katie Perkin of Sussex Police

My first guest was Katie Perkin, Head of Corporate Communications at Sussex Police, and we spoke about Police communications during crisis events that prove to be very challenging from a comms perspective, given how fast moving situations can become.   Sadly, the interview took place just after we had witnessed events of that very nature, but Katie felt the Police had done a fantastic job responding and dealing quickly and effectively with them. She explained that Police communicators are well practised and have detailed plans for dealing with situations like these.

One of the things the Police has made sure they have been very quick to do is the instant response online to such events. Passers-by and possibly those involved often post photos and videos online immediately and it is important and critical that the public know that the Police are there and aware of the event and are seen to be dealing with it.  Katie explained that this is a very difficult issue to manage as this also may be the first time a victim’s family or loved one is made aware that they have been hurt or killed. The film the public take could also be important to the Police and so while they cannot tell people what to do with it, Katie wanted to remind people to consider the thoughts and feelings of those involved.

Katie acknowledges that it is now a different time with citizen journalism, where the social norm seems to be to get your phone out and film an event. This footage may be useful but it can be damaging. For example if it is an ongoing terrorist incident, and people are posting in real time, then they may be unwittingly helping the terrorists know what the Police are doing. The media are aware of what they need to do in such a situation in terms of live broadcast, but Katie doesn’t necessarily think the public are and so it may be something that [the Police] need to better explain to them.

Katie said that she is in awe of Police officers putting themselves in danger to protect people and they deserve the public admiration. However, with situations such as those in Manchester and London, people will start to ask questions [such as in certain instances, why suspects may have been known to the Police] but the key is not to pre judge.  The Police are very good at looking back at where things have happened and doing thorough reviews. However, she said that the Police Service is completely committed to being open and transparent and looking at any learning from such events and applying that in the future.

Katie explained that the Police is well versed in exercising for incidents such as those we have seen recently, practicing the operational as well as communications response. Within her own department, Katie ensures she has a detailed plan for different crises that may occur and these are exercised, for example, through a table top exercise where members of the team take on different roles. They also have a pivot model, which is put into place in a major incident, and outlines all the different roles and responsibilities that are needed to be covered, and is very clear on all the areas that need to be picked up on so that there are no gaps.  She said that all organisations need to prepare in case of a crisis and one of the basic elements of that is to be able to get hold of your people, particularly out of working hours. Do you have all their details and at the push of a button can you contact everyone and let them know you need them in the office? It’s vital that this is in place.  Personally, I would have thought something as simple as a WhatsApp group could be an immediate help in a situation like that.

We also talked about the media fixation with the number of fatalities when an incident occurs, but Katie said this is simply down to human interest as they want to know how big an incident it is. If people [in communications] are dealing with an incident with a number of fatalities they need to be prepared for this.  She also said that you would need to work closely with your local coroner’s office in situations like that.

Changing the mood on the conversation, I also spoke to Katie’s about more proactive work that her team deals with and we talked about a campaign that they ran over Valentine’s Day, called ‘Long Lost Loves’.

Katie feels the Police service has become very good at engaging with people on social media and so they used Valentine’s Day as a hook to support operational policing efforts to track down some ‘Wanted’ people. They sent those individuals Valentine’s messages online through Facebook, Twitter and Instagram and then asked the public to help track them down.

The response was phenomenal.

I particular liked the descriptions of each of the individuals below the videos YouTube:

susexlonglostvideo

People loved the fact the Police were using humour but at the same time were trying to achieve a serious objective. She therefore said it is important that the way the Police use social media is appropriate, they can’t just put appeals on without giving something back and that the public needs to see the humanity that is within the Police service.

Bringing the conversation back to Crisis Communications, and taking the humanity issue as a given, Katie gave us her top three tips for dealing with a crisis:

  1. Be prepared and planned. Practise this plan.
  2. Quick initial response. Get something onto social media to let the public know you are dealing with it.
  3. Look after your people. Unless you tell them to stop, in a crisis they will keep going and work themselves into the ground.

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Understanding language & culture when managing International Crisis Communications – csuitepodcast 20

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Show 20 of the csuitepodcast discussed a new report that I actually helped write for translation and localisation agency, Conversis, on the importance of understanding language and culture when managing an international crisis.

I was joined in the studios of markettiers by Conversis CEO, Gary Muddyman and Francis Ingham, who is Director General of both the UK & MENA PRCA and Chief Executive of ICCO.  We also had Neil Chapman on the line – Neil is a partner at WPNT Communications, an agency that specialises in Crisis Communication Leadership, plus within the show, I included some audio content from an interview I carried out whilst I was at PR360 the previous week with former Editor of numerous BBC TV and Radio news programmes, Simon Waldman.

We began the show by discussing why we felt that almost half of the UK and US Communications executives who manage international crisis communications and had responded to the research survey admitted to having experienced a cultural faux pas due to a mistreated or wrong cultural reference in a campaign and the fact that, in over 68% of those cases, it had led to severe ramifications.

Gary felt that this all linked to the general lack of language and cultural awareness amongst executives in the US and UK.  He believes that one of the best ways to understand the culture of a country is to really understand their language and that whole attitude affects us, whereas a number of our competitor countries are real global citizens who understand the language, culture and what they are dealing with – we just don’t have that kind of education.

Francis agreed and picking up on the comment he made in the report that ‘the findings are a wakeup call to the industry on both sides of the Atlantic’, he added that too many people who think that, because English is our first language we have it covered and so there isn’t a need for planning, resources or trying to get inside the mind set of culture and the language of the people we are doing business with, this sometimes leads to us being a little bit arrogant.  His conclusion from having read the report is that we simply don’t invest enough time, effort and money in communicating in other languages and embracing other cultures and that is a risk to the continued growth of the PR industry in the UK and US.

As Neil was on the show, I obviously took the opportunity to ask him about his time at BP, where he was involved in the crisis communications during BP Deepwater Horizon oil spill in the Gulf of Mexico back in April 2010.  This was actually an incident flagged in the report because, as well as people quite rightly taking offence to the comments made by the CEO at the time, Tony Hayward, when he used the phrase “I’d like my life back” at the end of a TV news interview, this after 11 workers lost their lives in the disaster, there was more reputational issues to deal with when the then BP Chairman, Carl-Henric Svanberg, followed that comment up with a cultural faux pas.

In another interview, Svanberg tried to translate a phrase from his native Swedish that was a figure of speech that means something along the lines of ‘the common person’, but ended up saying “We care about the small people”, which just came across highly patronising in English.

Neil said, in relation to that issue, that what he teaches executives is that it’s all about empathy, and that language plays into that.  You need to show you are human and that you realise they are hurting and it’s all about how you demonstrate that empathy.  He admitted that those two executives at BP didn’t do a good job in that respect and it was because they did it in a crass way.

Neil’s advice to anyone in a crisis situation is to ‘get some dirt on your hands’. In other words, if you can, speak to the people who have been impacted in a crisis, listen to them, really meet them and go eye to eye and see the impact of what has happened – then the tone of what you say will change and will become much more human and empathetic.

Other areas we covered that are featured in the report including monitoring of comments on social media and speed of response to both media and comments across social, in the right languages.

Another topic we covered was that of Language Migration, and it’s relevance in Crisis Communications.  Neil explained the importance of knowing information about the community around where you are based.  He used an example that he was involved in and how, after an explosion at a refinery, they discovered that, when meeting members of the community, over a period of about five years, it had gone from a dominant English speaking to a dominant Spanish speaking, but they only found this out at the time of the crisis.

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Crisis Communications – The Kay Burley Effect – latest csuite podcast

MD of Pinch Point Communications, Sarah Pinch, Stephen Humphreys, Director of Communications at the Food Standards Agency and Andrew Vincent, Associate Partner at Instinctif Partners joined me in the studios of markettiers4dc to record Show 9 in the csuitepodcast series, with Social Media’s impact on Crisis Communications on this month’s agenda.

This was a very timely show given in recent weeks we’ve seen:

The general feeling from all guests was that Alton Towers had responded very well to the awful incident and that this was possibly reflected in the positive comments they had received on their Facebook page.  Andrew pointed out that they probably wouldn’t have had this reaction, had they not done the right thing and been so proactive, with Merlin CEO, Nick Varney, leading from the front, ensuring the company takes responsibility and undertaking difficult media interviews, such as the one he did with my new twitter follower, Sky NewsKay Burley.

Now I’ll admit, I’m not Kay’s biggest fan, and if you search YouTube, you’ll find plenty of examples of interviews that have been uploaded, where viewers clearly share a similar view to me on her style and approach.  However, incredibly, off the back of the interview in question, she has managed to deflect the attention away from Nick Varney, who she attacked so rudely and at times, viciously, and turned the situation into a crisis of her own, with, at the time of writing, there now being over 50,000 people calling for her to be sacked by Sky!

Personally, I wouldn’t want to see someone lose their job over something like a poor interview, but I do believe she should stop being so defensive, as she appears to be on her twitter feed, and learn some lessons about taking responsibility from the same person she tried to grill in that very, as Andrew described, aggressive and hostile environment.

Interestingly, Andrew’s take on that interview is that he thinks there is a need now for journalists to sharpen and tailor their output to get shared on social media, which I should say is exactly how I came to be aware of Burley’s interview, and so it’s something we, as communicators, need to be aware of, as questioning will get more hostile as the journalists look for that exciting soundbite to get shared.

Sarah emphasised the importance of being able to say ‘we’re sorry’, and that you have to have empathy and show some of your feelings.  She believed Merlin had done brilliantly and that we’d felt for their CEO as he seemed to be having a difficult time, which she stressed was a good thing because as a consumer, she would want to see that he is upset by what had happened, although that doesn’t mean we think it’s his [or the company’s] fault, as we have no idea at this stage.

Bringing it back to role social media has to play in a crisis, Andrew highlighted that the medium is a very emotional and often emotive environment and the problem is that if you, as an organisation or a spokesperson for your organisation dealing with a crisis, don’t demonstrate sufficient empathy and emotion, then social media will do it for you.

Comparing Alton Towers to Thomas Cook, Andrew highlighted that the latter was a very sad spectacle of a company hiding behind its lawyers and demonstrating no evidence of having an ethical approach of dealing with the situation, being on the back foot and then trying to remedy the situation by making a donation to a charity completely independent of what the family concerned might have wished.

Stephen added that where social media has changed the dynamic in dealing with a crisis is in the speed of response, and gave the example that at one point, he believed FIFA were up to about 8000 comments or questions on their Twitter feed, but had provided no response or statement.

Other areas we covered in the interview included the horse meat investigation, which Stephen described as the biggest incident/crisis that he has had to deal with in his time at the FSA and the first where social media played a significant role, and the FSA’s latest campaign, their 2015 Chicken Challenge,  which has the objective of educating consumers about campylobacter in chicken, which is the most common cause of food poisoning in the UK.

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